MyDD :: Is Obama Readying to Concede?

by Mags on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:45:52 PM EST
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No, you're not at all condescending ~ and not even a tiny bit smug ~ Really!

by Deano963 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:56:03 PM EST
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Take it however you like. I honestly couldn't care less. This diary is a prime example of the kind of kicking-and-screaming way in which Hillary and her supporters seem hell-bent on going out on.

Is it really too much to ask for someone to lose with grace and class?

Hillary going on conference calls with her bloggers urging them to declare Barack Obama and "illegitimate" candidate does not strike me as someone all that connected to reality or who has any intention of losing with class.

I've heard you also need to tap your heels together three times. And there was something about slippers...

just saying something over and over again does not mean it will come to be.

Can't rec or rate -- next username, please!

by neeborMolgula on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:10:35 PM EST
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by interestedbystander on Sun May 18, 2008 at 02:37:24 AM EST
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Can't rec or rate -- next username, please!

Indeed.

by neeborMolgula on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:38:48 AM EST
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by Reaper0Bot0 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:12:43 PM EST
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I am terribly sorry, but this is not her time.

You have to earn your time. You have to win it.

She didn't. This is a part of life. You'll accept it, eventually.

The question is if you'll have the inner strength to survive the death of your worldview. You've built up Senator Clinton into something she isn't - the solution of all of your problems.

These are politicians. They are, as a group, not particularly great people.

Virtual Mojo! (2.00 / 1)

These are politicians. They are, as a group, not particularly great people.

FOAR this!

by kraant on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:25:48 PM EST
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by Montague on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:00:57 PM EST
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"You have to earn your time." Compared to johnny-come-lately Obama, she has earned it.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

I think if she had voted against the war, she would have cruised to the nomination.

by politicsmatters on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:03:43 PM EST
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by Montague on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:09:35 PM EST
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No, she would not have.

Re: Is Obama Readying to Concede? (2.00 / 4)

Well, if she'd voted against teh war, she'd be a different person. Bold, decisive, principled, far-sighted, a leader, a figher. She'd be the person she and so many people here seem to honestly believe she is.

But the Senator who voted for the war, and stood by passively while Bush was destroying this country, is not that person, however much fire and grit she may be showing now, when her own ambition is more obviously on the line. Timid, poll-driven, a cautious Broderist and Liebercrat.

So, yes, if Hillary Clinton were the person she presents herself as in this campaign, she would have cruised to the nomination. As it is, as her record is, a lot of us find her claims to be a "fighter" not just nonsensical but downright offensive.

by BlueinColorado on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:33:56 PM EST
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by Montague on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:08:17 PM EST
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If Obama were the person he represents himself to be, he'd have a Nobel Prize under his belt. Had he been in the Senate, he would have voted for AUMF. How do I know? Because every single Democrat in the Senate who had presidential aspirations felt that to vote otherwise would destroy their chances. (And most of those in the House, too. Kucinich is a world unto himself, and has never had the tiniest chance of becoming president, so he can do whatever he likes.) Obama is not different from other politicians; he is very much of their kind.

Clinton is far from perfect and far from having been my first choice. But she is radically more liberal than Lieberman and you know that you are misspeaking. As for fighting, yes, she has fought for economic justice. There are more issues on the table than just the Iraq war.

by DreamsOfABlueNation on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:58:11 PM EST
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I would not say that she would have cruised to the nomination--Obama is a heck of an adversary in his own right-- but I suspect she would have won and she would have had my vote.

"No matter what happens, I will work for the nominee of the Democratic Party because we must win in November." -Hillary Clinton

If she'd voted against the war, and chosen a different campaign staff, and did the organizing to establish a ground game in every Super Tuesday state she could have won.

by fugazi on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:13:00 PM EST
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by Montague on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:10:57 PM EST
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I don't think so. People like nice speeches and people who talk about vague concepts like hope (cf. Bill Clinton). Hillary is a policy wonk, not a gifted orator with a ready smile.

by Deano963 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:57:45 PM EST
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Answer me this:

How long has Hillary been in elected office?

How long has Barack been in elective office?

Now, take the answer to those questions and tell me again why it is that Hillary has earned it?

by Montague on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:12:21 PM EST
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First, please explain to me the difference - as you see it - between "elected" office and "elective" office?

Next, experience is MORE than just being an elected public official.

Hillary has more. LOTS more. End of story.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

Your right... 8 years from now she will be.

by yitbos96bb on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:21:23 PM EST
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Um... read the front page (2.00 / 7)

Hillary has walked away from campaigning in Oregon in order to focus on Kentucky.

In other words...

pot.
kettle.

by PhilFR on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:00:46 PM EST

Re: Um... read the front page (none / 0)

Glad I read though diaries, was going to link (http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/17/1944 15/872) the front page story that she has left Oregon because she is too far behind in the polls.

Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."

by igottheblues on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:51:17 PM EST
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Re: Um... read the front page (none / 0)

Hahahaha.

Bingo.

by AlexScott on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:09:27 PM EST
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Re: Is Obama Readying to Concede? (2.00 / 3)

Obama's Sunday schedule:Gresham, Portland, Pendleton, OR

Why would you say that Obama's not campaigning and not holding town meetings when he's doing both? Do you think that people have no sources of information outside of your diary?

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:01:50 PM EST

Re: Is Obama Readying to Concede? (2.00 / 4)

On Saturday, for example, Mr. Obama appeared at a town-hall-style meeting in the southwestern Oregon town of Roseburg, talking about health care and foreign policy and then taking questions about subjects that included Oregon's assisted suicide law and domestic partnerships.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/us/pol itics/18campaign.html

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:04:40 PM EST
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Re: Is Obama Readying to Concede? (2.00 / 10)

McSame will be wishing he had conceded the primary in the summer of 2007. Barack Obama and us Democrats are going to pummel the old warmongering fool.

by Pat Flatley on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:02:35 PM EST

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"Barack Obama and us Democrats are going to pummel the old warmongering fool.

Still. Laughing.

Righteous!

"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."

by AK Democrat on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:28:09 PM EST
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by elrod on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:24:04 PM EST
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Are you actually a Republican?

"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."

No, I'm definitely NOT a Republican. I just found it very funny to read the line "Barack Obama and us Democrats are going to pummel the old warmongering fool."

That's good smack!

I believe it to be the absolute truth!

Which is why it's RIGHTEOUS!!

by AK Democrat on Tue May 20, 2008 at 08:53:58 PM EST
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Re: Is Obama Readying to Concede? (2.00 / 4)

You are one day closer to accepting that Clinton has lost.

Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius

by Blue Neponset on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:03:30 PM EST

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

"as the heat continues to mount"

Another odd comment. Obama clinches the lead in pledged delegates on Tuesday. Today he went +6 in delegates.

And he starts a three day campaign swing in FL on Wednesday. Maybe you should start reading more widely.

by politicsmatters on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:04:29 PM EST

Obnoxious Diary (1.66 / 3)

n/t

I read the body count out of the paper; now it's written all over my face.

by JDF on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:04:41 PM EST

Re: Is Obama Readying to Concede? (2.00 / 10)

Yep, Obama's going to concede, the superdelegates are going to come to Hillary's side, and the skies will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect.

Woohoo, Hillary! You go girl!

by amiches on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:04:47 PM EST

Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius

She is a fighter!!

by Blue Neponset on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:07:45 PM EST
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Agreed!! It's just so sickening to see these blogger boyz try and take her down. I guess they just can't deal with a strong woman - probably still mad at their moms for making them clean their rooms! What a herstoric woman!

by amiches on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:18:49 PM EST
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by Reaper0Bot0 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:30:52 PM EST
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You are using sexist and derogatory language. I would prefer that you show a little more class. If you are unable to show that class, and the appropriate respect we are due, then you serve no purpose here.

You are only a troll. A lesser creature. A denizen of overpasses. A figure of fun. A creature to be mocked.

You are a disgrace to everything your candidate represents. I hope that somehow, in some small way, I have helped illuminate your glaring inadequacies to you.

For the record, my mother was the breadwinner for most of my childhood. My father stayed at home far more than she did to see to our raising. I haven't a sexist inkling in my body, but frankly that isn't the point.

Anyone who would make such sweeping generalizations about others based on their gender is, at the very best, the least of us.

I hope that you can survive what is sure to come - your candidate saying things that don't fit your apparent view of the world.

Hillary Clinton isn't running so you can show us up. She's running so she can lead all of us, all of us to a better future and a more perfect union.

You are gutter trash if you think that such broad generalizations and crass insults have any place in our discourse.

For shame.

Um... (none / 0)

I think that amiches was being snarky. Maybe you are too?

I already got burned once today not recognizing snark. Usually I'm so good at being able to tell. Maybe I've lost my touch.

Check out McCain.

by you like it on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:48:34 PM EST
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Re: Um... (none / 0)

If that wasn't serious, then I apologize. That was unseemly, if that's the case.

But I've seen that crap peddled seriously here.

by Reaper0Bot0 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:50:52 PM EST
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Pointing to the inadequacies of John McCain

If, as I'm frequently told by people on this site, african americans can be racist against whites, then the previous reply it completely on the money.

Quit with the polarising sexist rant

by duende on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:39:28 PM EST
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Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius

Wake up and smell the latte; it is over sweetie. Hillary ain't gonna be the first female president.

by Blue Neponset on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:45:12 PM EST
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by Benjaminomeara on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:49:50 PM EST
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Maybe she will be but she isn't 44.

I think you were a little too subtle... (2.00 / 1)

Others are up in arms, but this has to be snark.

Check out McCain.

by you like it on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:51:27 PM EST
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by elrod on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:26:46 PM EST
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Herstoric? Snark.

by deminva on Sun May 18, 2008 at 12:20:53 AM EST
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Give me a freaking break. By your logic, no man may criticize Clinton--or even point out her next-to-nonexistent chances at securing the nomination.

Can't rec or rate -- next username, please!

Rise Hillary rise!!!

by neeborMolgula on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:15:28 PM EST
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I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson

Is this diarist going to have a mental breakdown when Hillay concedes?

by obamaovermccain on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:06:16 PM EST

Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics

If Obama weren't being forced to run two campaigns against two opponents, he'd be able to devote more energy to whichever one was left.

And Senator Clinton is certainly in no position to be dictating the terms or schedule of any public appearance for her opponent. You only get to do that if you're winning.

by BishopRook on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:06:57 PM EST

Pointing to the inadequacies of John McCain

Hillary will suspend her campaign on Tuesday/Wednesday but not take her name off forthcoming ballots. She will suggest she is 'candidate in waiting' and leverage something for herself between now and the summer.

Just a guess, but it would vindicate her strategy over the last two months, and save money. She's already toned down the rhetoric against Obama. She might want to prove how effective she is against McCain, and secure something - a post or campaign issue - like Edwards did.

It's a smart political move. Unlike some people on this site, Hillary is smart politician and ultimately a democratic loyalist.

by duende on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:07:49 PM EST

keep dreaming (none / 0)

she doesn't have to suck up to Obama, she will be the first female president. Obama is giving the SDs NO reason to chose him in August.

For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!

by TeresaInPa on Sun May 18, 2008 at 06:00:42 PM EST
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by Politicalslave on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:08:15 PM EST

I would trust Senator Obama's strategy over Senator Clinton's. How could she have lost the nomination with so much going for her.

by Benjaminomeara on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:12:08 PM EST

I think Josh Marshall had it right.

We seem to have arrived at an equitable compromise: Sen. Clinton is staying in the nomination race while Sen. Obama drops out to move on to the general.

I officially concede (2.00 / 3)

I would like to announce a concession today. I concede that, though Hillary supporters are a nice enough bunch on the whole, the distance between Clinton supporters at this site and reality grows larger with every new Obama superdelegate.

Obama leads the popular vote too

by kellogg on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:15:56 PM EST

maybe insert one word (2.00 / 3)

Maybe you should say "some" Clinton supporters.

Most Clinton supporters on this site have been in touch with reality from the beginning. They know what time it is, and they're going to support Obama if he gets the nomination.

by emptythreatsfarm on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:26:25 PM EST
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I'll concede that too ;-) (none / 0)

Good point.

Obama leads the popular vote too

by kellogg on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:27:24 PM EST
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Re: maybe insert one word (none / 0)

Good on you. You are getting a clock ! (popular culture reference)

by Benjaminomeara on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:27:59 PM EST
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by durendal on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:17:38 PM EST

Thanks Linda.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/ 2008/05/clinton-takes-o.html

I do not know about Obama getting ready to concede, but by this aritcle, I know that Hillary is not ready just yet!

"Clinton Takes on 'Those People on TV'"

Share May 17, 2008 4:21 PM

ABC News' Eloise Harper reports: In Loretto, Ky., today, Sen. Hillary Clinton vented some frustration with the pundits who keep saying the race for the Democratic presidential nomination is over and that she should quit.

"And you know all those people on TV who keep telling you and everybody else that this race is over and I should just be graceful and say `Oh, it's over,' even though I've won more votes," she said. "Those are all people who have a job. Those are all people who have health care. Those are all people who can afford to send their kids to college. Those are all people who can pay whatever is charged at the gas pump. They're not the people I'm running to be a champion for."

You tell them Hillary!

by mcctx on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:22:29 PM EST

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Sounds more like sour grapes than fighting on to me.
Remember that two days before he dropped out, Edwards said in an interview he was in until the convention.
If she keeps the campaign the same way she conducted it this week, I have no issue for her to stay until June.
But I think she is more in tune with reality than a lot of you are.

by Benjaminomeara on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:26:33 PM EST
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by elrod on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:28:55 PM EST
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I can't believe she campaigned at Maker's Mark Distillery and wouldn't try a bourbon. Maker's is the greatest bourbon on the face of the earth. Why would you drink Crown Royal and refuse a Maker's Mark?

by mattw on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:25:05 PM EST

Is Obama Readying to Concede?

Yes, definitely. He'll shortly have all the delegates needed for a total lock on the nomination, and once he has proven he could be the nominee if he wanted, he'll concede to Hillary and return to a career crocheting, which is really his first love.

by IowaMike on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:29:27 PM EST

This is like watching a slow motion train wreck.

by Benjaminomeara on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:32:14 PM EST
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The train is off the rails and going down a cliff and all the way down the passengers keep telling each other there is always a chance the train will fly back up and back on the rails on its own coz, you know, it is not over until it has crashed at the bottom of the valley.

Super Diary Linda (none / 0)

Thank you

I didn't believe in god before the primaries and I still don't.

by NewHampster on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:31:45 PM EST

by jrsygrl on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:42:47 PM EST

Obama is as likely to concede as he is to win those southern red states that his campaign keeps trumpeting as in play. IOW not very likely on either front.

And the reason why we have heard less from him is that he knows right now he is in a better position to get the nomination - the more he opens his mouth the more likely he is to have an opportunity to misspeak & endanger his position. So right now he is laying low.

Re: Is Obama Readying to Concede? (2.00 / 3)

He's laying low? He blasted Bush-McCain yesterday and it got mondo publicity.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:43:58 PM EST
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by jrsygrl on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:56:39 PM EST
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I was responding to the diarist which has made note of several speaking opportunities with which Obama has pointedly avoided. He is speaking less for a reason. It may be a smart one.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

Just ridiculous. He has a full plate of speaking engagements.

by politicsmatters on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:06:35 PM EST
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by jrsygrl on Sun May 18, 2008 at 01:18:43 PM EST
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Everyone is aware of the fact that he has been less then available to the press lately. I don't think there is anything wrong with him employing that strategy; it wasn't even a critique it was simply an explanation as to why that may be.

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I am not buying him winning the whole South but did you read the piece in the NYT about the GOP soiling their pants with what they see down there regarding him ?
It s a good sign and terrific for downballot races

by Benjaminomeara on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:44:44 PM EST
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Re: Is Obama Readying to Concede? (2.00 / 1)

That was really an interesting piece -
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/us/pol itics/16south.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq =childers+obama&st=nyt&oref=slog in

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:51:29 PM EST
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by Reaper0Bot0 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:48:38 PM EST
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He's down by three in Virginia.

Oh, wait, did I interrupt your absurdity with facts again?

So sorry.

by jrsygrl on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:55:21 PM EST
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@@ Yeah the GOP is going to lose the south - That is such a realistic game plan. Keep in mind we haven't EVEN entered the G/E fray yet. The campaigning has yet to get turned on full force! If you recall Kerry had quite a lead on W entering the election cycle as well...

by Reaper0Bot0 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:57:30 PM EST
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Not in Virginia he didn't.

Any chance you might stop ignoring facts that counter your preconceived notions?

Any chance you might realize that not wanting Obama to beat Clinton does not mean you should spend all day hoping he'd actually lose to McCain.

It cheapens you.

by jrsygrl on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:03:01 PM EST
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Wow talk about reading what you want into my posts. One of my concerns, a VERY VALID concern I might add, aside from the fact that I don't feel confident in Obama's ability , s that I think McCain is MORE LIKELY to win the G/E with Obama heading our ticket. That is a MAJOR PROBLEM to me - since he is the presumptive nominee I am hoping that I am wrong b/c I really am not looking forward to the fallout of another 4 years with this GOP.

And the point ONCE AGAIN is that Kerry was FAR ahead of W and it seemed outlandish to think that anyone would vote for Bush again (hell people were ready to vote for ANYONE over him & there was major defection from the GOP). And yet despite that overall margin guess what happened?

So to suggest that, before the primary has even ENDED, that a less qualified candidate then our nomination 4 years ago is somehow going to make this MAJOR unprecedented sweep in various red states, b/c of pre G/E campaigning polls is ludicrous.

by Reaper0Bot0 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:06:49 PM EST
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And yet that's what the polls suggest. And yet that's what the fundamentals suggest.

And yet the Republicans have lost three House seats that never should have been in play.

And yet I've got Republican friends here in the great swing state of Ohio who have said they'll vote Obama in November.

And yet Senator Obama (and Senator Clinton) has driven a level of enthusiasm most have never seen.

And yet Senator Obama has already demonstrated a willingness to punch back, not hold back as Senator Kerry did.

And yet Senator McCain has shown a willingness to tie himself to a President that the public absolutely does not accept or love.

And yet, your fears are your own, and not entirely unreasonable. But with a willingness to work and to fight, and a touch of hope, we will do this.

by jrsygrl on Sun May 18, 2008 at 12:44:56 PM EST
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There is hope and then there is blind hope- Realistic hope is hoping in future election cycles to change the tide - delusional thinking is believing it will happen in the immediate. Instant gratification is rare.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

And six months ago it was very unlikely that he would win the nomination. Clinton was still inevitable. So he clearly knows something about winning.

by politicsmatters on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:07:58 PM EST
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by jrsygrl on Sun May 18, 2008 at 12:51:08 PM EST
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Really?! In December Clinton was considered inevitable?? Wow I must've had a crystal ball then if I recall the conversations I had at Christmas time...

by elrod on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:31:32 PM EST
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Kerry had a lead on Bush when all the Democrats ganged up on Bush. None of the Dems turned on each other after January.

Also, April was Abu Ghraib month and Bush took a hit. After that he recovered and Kerry never had a sizable lead except in a couple polls right around the DNC. And then the Swift Boaters hit. Kerry only recovered because of Bush's awful debate performance and then we had a real race in October.

by jrsygrl on Sun May 18, 2008 at 12:46:49 PM EST
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Prior to Kerry even being the nominee Bush had abysmal numbers. Conventional wisdom held that whomever was the nominee would be our next president; after all Bush had some of the WORST approval numbers ever. I even recall the meme being that NO sitting president had ever won a re-election with the numbers that he had.

Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

Someday you'll realize how sad this diary is.

by map on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:47:10 PM EST

Please Guys (none / 0)

Didn't you all get the word that a "no negativity toward Democratic Candidates" truce is now in effect?
Don't be haters, stick to the truce.

My thoughts on McCain: I have no desire to let that idiot fulfill his desire to "Bomb Iran"

by Otaku Saru on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:53:37 PM EST

is it me linda, (none / 0)

or is the swarming getting to be a little much?

"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum

by canadian gal on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:15:02 PM EST

Re: is it me linda, (2.00 / 1)

Oh, please. What reaction would you like a diary like this to get on a political forum?

Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:09:34 PM EST
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Re: is it me linda, (2.00 / 1)

good point.

but i have seen this excessive swarming on almost every diary here for the past week with lots of new users. (especially when it is a pro-HRC or anti-BO) v. strange.

"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum

by canadian gal on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:19:25 PM EST
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Re: is it me linda, (none / 0)

The time has passed to post anti-Obama diaries. Sorry, but it just has.

I would hope nobody would unfairly attack or pile on a pro Hillary diary done in good faith. I don't consider it good faith to claim she's ahead in the popular vote or that she's taking this to the convention. And I certainly don't consider this diary to be in good faith, or even sane.

Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:40:49 PM EST
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Re: is it me linda, (none / 0)

Because it's easy pickings. Come on, post a pile of tosh and not expect people to make fun of you? It's irresistible, yet the Clinton fans will still point to the responses and say "you're not helping your candidate".

by interestedbystander on Sun May 18, 2008 at 02:53:03 AM EST
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Re: is it me linda, (none / 0)

Hi, I just got on here but I came from the Hillary forum and yahoo Hillary list. They put up all the links so we can go from there and check things out.
This is important, we need to have the info.
melk austin, tx

by mk5112 TX on Sun May 18, 2008 at 11:00:38 PM EST
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by Bobby Obama on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:58:23 PM EST

Interesting. Where was Hillary in Utah, Idaho, Alabama and Kansas?

Surreal Diary (none / 0)

Very strange. Very sad. I seriously am thinking that all the pharma companies stock is going to shoot through the roof when she finally faces reality and concedes. Hillary will be fine and will be out campaigning to elect Democrats. It's her supporters who are going to have to wash down bottles of anti depressants. Then of course they'll vote for a Republican. I'm sure that warms Hillary and Bill's hearts to the core. I'll tell you-you guys make them cry.

I support our nominee President Barack Obama - and the Admins can't stand me, so I can't rec or rate. This is very mean if you were to ask me.

by TheFullBerry on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:06:51 PM EST

Re: Surreal Diary (none / 0)

Maybe he knows all the info that is coming out about him and his coherts. I dont think he will stop - lets just see what happens.
Melk austin, tx

by mk5112 TX on Sun May 18, 2008 at 10:58:36 PM EST
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by Scotch on Sun May 18, 2008 at 01:34:39 AM EST

I hear he is planning his concession speech for May 20th. Not a moment too soon.

by grlpatriot on Sun May 18, 2008 at 11:05:12 AM EST

Propping Obama up isn't working anymore. What will the party insiders and his MSM/surrogates to with themselves. Lot's of Obama hand wringing going on right now.